frame-fork: VISP
Front wheel: H+SON + miche pistard hub
Back wheel: B43 + miche pistard hub
stem: Thomson
handlebar: Nitto
DURA-ACE crank with MICHE chainring
MICHE seatpost + fizik seat
Submitted by kandurbandi
VISP – black and yellow
Posted on January 24th 2012
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26 Comments Received
January 24th, 2012 @4:11 pm
Interesting that you chose the handlebar and backwheel/tire for places of yellow (and of course the valve caps). It’s nice.
January 24th, 2012 @4:30 pm
this is really a Leader right? Who would waste all those primo parts on a Visp.
January 25th, 2012 @12:51 am
i don’t understand why people rip visp frames on here, they are cheap, light, ride well and look mean as well (exactly the same as leader imho) i have heard guys who know a lot about bikes say they reckon these frames and leader come from the same factory as they are identical. I own both a brand new model visp and a couple year old leader and they ride nearly the same!
mate its a nice build, stealth with some character, i like it and if someone rips about it because its a visp, tell em where to go!
January 25th, 2012 @10:35 am
Hate to agree with slo. These parts are worth much more than your hundred dollar frame. That aside, I don’t like non matching wheels unless the color is confined to one side of the bike, ie a yellow saddle and black bar tape. Not sure about the color or frame but it’s a solid build for the most part.
January 25th, 2012 @11:22 am
too true. Real quality components. The frame isn’t worth a 10 dollar jerk in a booth at your local arcade.
January 25th, 2012 @12:20 pm
level the saddle.
miche seatpost on visp frame = 80 dollar stem on 100 dollar frame = lol
but i actually like the looks of it. if the seat was level.
January 25th, 2012 @1:31 pm
That level the saddle thing gets old on here. Not everyones body is shaped the same. Nor is everyones riding posture the same. Judging by how high the saddle is, it looks fine. And if this is critiqued based on aesthetics, thats whatever. And for the next person to respond to this I dont care what Sheldon Brown says. If it feels good, ride it. Like Dylans mom and his white Turbo saddle.
January 25th, 2012 @10:53 pm
Some saddle’s don’t get perfectly level. Mine for example. See your point though.
January 26th, 2012 @1:53 am
Sheldon Brown told me to tell you guys to level the saddle please thanks.
January 26th, 2012 @11:28 am
chauncey: your opinion is based in ignorance.
ALL saddles are meant to be for the most part level. a touch of an angle is fine. thats where personal preference/rider’s body come into play. but not an angle that steep.
ask ANY bike mechanic that knows anything. ask any pro rider. ask Zinn if you dont feel like listening to sheldon. ask anyone who has ridden a bike more than 20 miles. having a seat angled that far down makes the saddle NOT support your weight correctly. it makes you slip down on the saddle and makes your wrists/arms/hands support way too much weight.
ill keep saying “level your saddle” because that’s the only correct way to have your saddle, plus or minus a few degrees. anyone that says otherwise frankly dosn’t know what they are talking about.
January 26th, 2012 @11:29 am
also, level saddles look better because they look correct.
January 26th, 2012 @11:46 am
Illdthedbag, great job on that little exposé. Since you’re an expert on anatomy, tell Zinn to put his balls in in your mouth. Is that your best shot at a great critique “level the saddle?” Guess what? Its still old. I think there are far more pressing matters with this bike. That angle isn’t even that steep.
January 26th, 2012 @12:01 pm
no need to get snippy with the pot shots, buddy.
the saddle angle on this is atrocious, and if you think its perfectly fine its obvious you have no clue what you are talking about. its OK to be ignorant, but spreading it by telling people they are doing things perfectly fine when its obviously wrong isn’t.
January 26th, 2012 @12:08 pm
there is a reason why a saddle angled that far down is incorrect, and ill reiterate: a saddle angled that far down dosn’t support your body weight appropriately. your butt will forever slide down the saddle as opposed to actually sitting on it, thereby putting LOTS of undo stress/weight on your hands/wrists/upper body. if you ride for any length you are just creating an uncomfortable body position, whatever your body type.
im not trying to be mean, just trying to funnel down knowledge from people who know way better than you or I.
January 26th, 2012 @3:44 pm
I think that the funneling down knowledge bit is a bit problematic. In a ideal world everybody would pass on advice based on personal experience, not constantly quoting Sheldon Brown or reposting stuff they read on the net. That and the fact that it’s almost always the same information that get’s funneled down, “needs foot retention, brakes,wrapped bar, drive side shot etc..” Any fool spending five minutes reading old post would pick that info up..
Another factor that affects the saddle angel is frame size, if you are to stretched out you tend to tilt the saddle a bit forward..
On the saddle topic.
January 26th, 2012 @6:11 pm
whats problematic is all these people that are doing things wrong and other people keep seeing it and think that’s the norm.
you would think “any fool spending five minutes reading old posts would pick that info up” but apparently that isn’t the case since so many people keep doing things improperly.
and if you have to angle a saddle down a whole lot to make a frame work for you then you bought the wrong size frame. or your stem is too long. or you have improper drop to saddle height ratio. in any case a little bit of saddle angle is fine, but a bunch is always the case of the person not having something on their bike right in terms of geometry, length, or position.
look im really not trying to be a jerk. if anything im trying to help people so that they’ll have a much more comfortable and efficient setup and enjoy riding their bike that much more.
January 26th, 2012 @8:59 pm
The angle of the saddle does NOT look too far off. The angle of the CAMERA when the photo was taken is Way OFF. Distortion big time. Set the beer down and hold the camera steady. Thanks.
January 27th, 2012 @9:38 am
now that you mention it, it looks not so bad in the second picture lol
but in the first and third pic it looks like its pointing at the headset *shrug*
January 27th, 2012 @12:10 pm
You guys sound like little girls arguing about Justin Bieber’s new outfit. I bet few people but you care how someone else’s saddle is adjusted. By the way, I just looked at one of Sheldon Brown’s fixed gear bikes. He calls it “Gunnar Street Dog”. It has the saddle angled substantially UP IN FRONT from horizontal.
January 27th, 2012 @12:25 pm
ddave, thank you for proving my point.
January 27th, 2012 @2:51 pm
where his sitbones actually sit is level. lots of leather brooks saddles, while looking like they are angled up a few degrees, the back of the saddle, where your sitbones actual sit, is level. modern saddles have a much more level top.
if anything a upward angle makes more sense than a downward saddle angle. it would force your sitbones toward the back of the saddle where they are meant to sit.
i dont really see how trying to help people build their bikes correctly is “like little girls arguing about Justin Bieber’s new outfit” but hey if you want build a bike like an ignorant jackass be my guest.
January 27th, 2012 @6:39 pm
Zzzzzzzzzzz…….
January 28th, 2012 @4:27 am
Hey guys, everyone just calm down please
Nice to see the lot of comments. I have to tell you: these pictures was taken when the bike was finished. We just put the things together, and i made some photos at the shop. My saddle is in a good position now, its very comfortable. Im quite tall, so i need the seatpost set up into high position.
seriously: thank you guys to taking care of my saddle!
January 30th, 2012 @12:38 am
this bike looks really cool, ride safe
January 30th, 2012 @11:35 am
only thing I don’t like about this bike is the black front wheel…I think it would look better to either be exactly like the front wheel, or just a yellow tire, or a yellow rim
January 30th, 2012 @3:52 pm
illthedj is completely right. if you need your saddle that angled or further front or back then improper fit, ie frame, stem, bars, is to blame. I’m not personally saying proper fit is mandatory, just like breathing isn’t mandatory. There are alternative fits and they will induce humiliation and physical harm, thereby rendering our proper fit argument unnecessary. I love this forum.
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