i like this build, even all the shitty stickers lol
dig the lego stem ;p i could see a yellow deep v on the back to match it haha

sorry i wont step away from anything ^^
i like my bikes messed up, dont like the clean, “almost never gets a ride” look that 90% of the bikes here have.
the risers are much more comfortable + much better for some tricking after work!

its a track frame.its not drilled for brakes.
the trackbar is just too narrow when not riding in the dropped position. my back is killing me x_X

yeah i thought about road bars because theyre not as narrow as track bars.
i need my risers because i also do some tricking stuff for fun. some stuff is almost impossible to do without risers or flat bars. i like to change bars from time to time but the risers always stuck. i actually like the look of road/track/bullhorn bars more than risers. so be sure im not using them because its hip or something like that xD

“and if trickin is in the plan,risers wouldn’t work would they”
i dont understand waht you mean?! sorry my english is not very good sometimes.

i already have risers. and normaly use risers. i just put the drops on to see how they work for me.
the pair of risers i have cost me about 10 euros ^^

ya I know .I meant cut down a pair of drops,not risers.old sucks.

heheh i already did that, too. ^^
worked out fine. gave them to my brothers and he`s enjoying it very much. i`ll stick to the risers. maybe i should build another bike for fast riding only. i need money.

Cool bike, I like it. The nice thing about threadless on the newer bikes is you can change out the bars so easy depending on the mood of your ride. I have a set of flat bars, tracks, and some bull horns I switch out all the time.

1″threaded is just as flexible for changing out bars.I keep bars(wrapped and brake levered)attached to goose necks.Stems are cheap,even good ones an one bolt and run cables and you’re rolling.Just came in from polishing an old Compe’(french?)aluminum stem I had in THE BOX.Now it’s ready for a chopped drop.

whats up with all the bad votes. seriously..is this bike less than a 5???x.X
cs: the rear wheel says “Baker”. its a skateboard brand.
i used to skate for some lomg years and still work in a skateshop. maybe thats why i am sucker for stickers and especialy skatboard stickers.
love

daniel

Ah gotcha. Yeah that totally would explain your love for stickers. I never skated but all of my friends that did had stickers all over the place. I think the bike looks good with drops but man those are some seriously deep track drops, like get you back lower than parallel drops. I can see where it would be uncomfortable just commuting in those. I agree with Alan, road drops would be a lot more comfortable. They’re made for riding longer distances than track drops obviously, but they also give you one more hand position on top that would be good for commuting. If you’re doing tricks that’s another story, but yeah having a good pair of drop bars for when you want to focus more on speed than tricks and comfort is always good. Drops and a brake or two make always make for better overall speed which is what I love.

I think drop bars are overrated unless you absolutely love them or need more aerodynamics. Go with risers man they’re awesome.

no, it’s risers that are over rated!Who needs to see where they’re going?LOL enjoy

I like an almost flat bar, no rise at all the stem does that for me and a sweep to the bars as in Soma, Noah’s Arc gives me the most comfortable hand position. After chopping a chead steel chromed bar , I still put back the Noah’s arc alloy bar and cut two more inches off it (the 3rd time) and now it’s good on the 60 cm. Raleigh soon to be posted.

hahah i understand. thank you!

illdthedj wich is your bike?

yeah its the alter stem. its funny because i live in germany. the german word “alter” would be “dude” in english.
so the stem says “Cinelli dude!”
hahahaha ^^
could you post the direct links to your bikes? dont want to search skip through bikes for two hours xD

here you go, cinelli dude! ;p

http://www.myfixedgear.net/tommaso-augusta-build

in german it would sound like “cinelli, dude!”
not i am the cinelli dude! xD
the tommaso is a nice build man.
the other one is ugly as hell but perfect for what you said its for.

dan as an “ex” skater, still got a board rarely ride but i do. i give you more props. i actually saw the freshhest shit the other day a guy in his 30′s in a fucking suit, a nice one @ that on a skateboard. @ first i’m like is this some kind of downtown poser then he does a real casual ollie off the street on to the sidewalk to avoid a car mid block w/ crazy high curb. no showing off or fronting just getting from “a” to “b”. loved it.

btw daniel this isn’t new you’ve probably seen it but i just did and thought it was cool plus cube & koston!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MNP9WPtcgU

haha good call but i would know gonz, he’s from the era grew up on him hosoi, lance mountain. guys like stevie williams, koston, burnquist & harold hunter(rip)are my age maybe a bit older. but these younger dudes like p-rod and tk are really on some next level shit. p-rod w/ nike is like tiger woods and tk with supra. it’s crazy my girl who has no idea who he is bought me the supra’s because they were fashion.

Straight bars or risers are good in trafic where you need quick control and hands near the brakes and maybe a more upright position for awareness. They are more limited than drops as regards hand positions which can be a factor on longer rides. I’m a real fidget on my bars and like to move my hands around a lot. Had straight bars on the Morris for years coz I was doing a lot of traffic. Found bar ends to be a real boon.Very good for hill climbs. Don’t see too many bar ends on this site.Apair of ally drops are good on fast downhills as that extra length of tube helps soak up many of the bumps that a more straight bar would pass on to your palms. I suppose drops were designed for racing, achieving a more streamlined shape ect. All these aero mods you see make me laugh cos you cant get around the general un-aerodynamic lump sitting on the saddle no matter how “aero” your seatpost.Recumbents are much more “aero” I would get 1 but I would probably fall asleep on long rides laying down like that. haha. They are fast though. There was 1 used to ride the Eastway track in East London. It’s a hilly road track, about a mile round. A team put a cover over a recumbent so the rider was totally enclosed. The thing weighed 50 or so pounds without the bike. They called it the Bluebell. The bugger went past me up Oxo hill and I was stripped for racing and fit. The reason they said was it was more aero dynamic+the rider,laying down was able to push against his saddle and generate more force than I could by standing on my pedals and the sides of the Bluebell acted like sails and was able to convert cross and tailwind to forward motion. Whatever. It was quick. Sorry for rambling so much. I hope some of it was interesting.

Luftmensh, while there’s nothing I would LOVE more than racing people on this website to prove points, we know that’s never going to happen. It’s one of the sad things about talking big on the internet, you can say whatever you want and not have to worry about ever having to really back it up. So, lets skip that and just go with what you like to try to call me out on, physics. For speed on a bike dealing with handlebars, you need positioning and leverage. On risers, you are higher up on the bike which means you’re pushing more with your thighs and less with the weight of your body when pedaling. Even with bullhorns you can position yourself lower over the bike, but not as low as you can on drops. When you’re reaching all of the way down in drops, your torso is fully over most of the bike so more of your body weight is forced down when pushing on the pedals. Next, leverage. When you are trying to generate more power for pedaling, you end up pulling up slightly on the handlebars so that pushing down the pedal on that side is more effective. If you’re on risers and you’re higher up on the bike, you have less room to pull and your arms are already bent a bit to allow you to sit more forward on the bike so you cannot pull up as well. In addition, you have a perpendicular (to the rest of the frame) hand position which twists the muscles in your arm a bit so that you’re pulling up sideways instead of straight on. With bull horns, you don’t have to worry about the angle of your hands, but again your arms are not as extended as they could be. In drops, your arms are extended further meaning you have more room to pull up a bit with each pedal stroke and the parallel hand position allows you to pull up in a more natural movement. It’s the same reason its easier to do pull-ups underhanded instead of overhanded. In this way you’re using your full body to pedal the bike instead of just your legs. The other thing about drops is that they allow you better handling than bullhorns. You’re not stretched as far over the bike so turning is easier. That’s one of the reasons you see pursuit bars on time trial bikes but not so much on the actual ‘I’m racing on the course with other racers’ race bikes. Those things with the bars and all of the other little things about the bike and rider are what add up to speed. Drops may not be as comfortable as risers or bullhorns, but we’re not talking comfort here, we’re talking speed and practicality. I’m not saying risers and bull horns don’t have their place, they definitely do and that place is for sure some times on fixed commuters, but as far as racing there is a better tool. Just because you don’t know how to use them correctly doesn’t mean they’re overrated. I don’t mind you voicing your opinion, and i don’t even mind when you’re incredibly rude to people in comments, I know I’ve done the same, but if you’re going to call someone out on the factual practicality of a bike part you might as well be right about if first.

there is no doubt that drops are made for going fast. no point in arguing about that.
i think its more about the overall dislike and sometimes hate on riser bars. it all has its place in riding a fixed gear.
risers can be used for easy commuting, riding through a crowded and tricking.
for longer distance rides something that offers more hand positions is welcome.

@daniel. Agreed.
@wsb, that would be awesome. Shit, if you and luftmenshk came down to stl, you could sleep on my couches we could race around on my bikes, and then go grab a beer at the end.

CS, How is the Anheuser Busch Brewery in St. Louis doing since the buy out ? Stella Artois anyone ? Tours of the Brewery ? Have you been to the Arch? I have only driven by on the way to Arkansas.

this whole riser vs. drops thing is getting a bit stale. look at the applications. risers developed because of mtbing they provide controlled tight steering while in an upright position so you can address changes in the riding enviroment. drops obviously came from road racing where aerodynamics and speed are essential and you are in a CONTROLLED enviroment a RACE COURSE that is planned out and free of traffic and pedestrians. in a controlled enviroment you can focus on the track or course you don’t need to watch out for cabs, bus, cars & pedestrians. it’s pretty simple.

drops in the city are for suckas sorry cs

actually i do have something to add while not perfect socialism has been proven the best system. american capitalism has “broke”en the world economy literally. we are in the last days of rome. learn chinese mutha fuckas.

Sup, we weren’t talking about which is better, we were talking about whether or not drops were practical at all based on the overrated comment. I’ve already acknowledged that risers have their place on fixed commuters. As far as drops in city commuting, if you’re actually in the drops when you’re in heavy traffic that means you don’t know when to use them. You’re right, your handling in drops is not as good as when you’re on top of the bar, which is why when you need handling you grab the top of the bend or the flat part of the bar. You only need to use the drops when you’re pushing speed or climbing so why ride in them all of the time? you use them when you need to. Traffic isn’t 100 percent all of the time (at least not where I’m from), so you run into times where it is useful. If you’re using them in traffic it mean’s you don’t know the right time to use drops. It’s like your dick, you don’t just whip it out all of the time regardless of the situation, you only use it when you need to get specific jobs done, but just because you don’t use it most of the time doesn’t mean you chop it off.

Good one CS , better every day !

So I should take the bell off my drops and put it on my dick so I know when it rises ? What’s UP !

thanks for the lesson on handlebars cs. i have roadbike and mtb and i’ve been riding a lot of years so i understand the dynamics of riding a bike. when i say “city” riding i’ve only lived in two philadelphia/nyc they are both relatively flat and there is traffic 100% of the time. so that is my bias. i’m mainly just tired and bored with the constant critisim of riser bars. i don’t even feel like typing a defense. but if practicality and speed are the most important thing to you why even own a fixed gear a geared roadbike makes more sense.

Yeah I get tired of it too. I wasn’t typing against risers in this instance, just in defense of drops. You can ride a fixed gear and focus on speed and practicality, its just a different type of ride.

all that bs being said i just got some nitto track drops cheap off craigslist i’ll rarely use them. why get them because they look cool. yeah i’m a hypocrite.

i agree. but i’ve seen plenty or vigorelli’s and concepts w/ risers that i think look cool.

feeling the skateboarding love, not feelinhg that stem